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When they were talking about the ways we try to justify our need for alcohol or nicotine, i was reminded of these Elbow lyrics.. beautiful insights into nicotine addiction:

“What can be said of the cigarette smokes

A prop for a joke or a mark on the clock

If I stopped would the bus ever come

Would the dawn ever kiss me, forgiven me, knowing what's done

Would the drivel make scribble make sense and then song

Would the woodbines denied black another man's lungs

Perverse as it may sound I sometimes believe

The tip to my lips just reminds me to breathe”

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The only two podcasts that I subscribe to in one episode. Venn diagram is circle

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Interesting episode. Josh’s history with alcohol was quite different to what I had expected based on his limited comments over time about having given up drinking. Good on him for being open and honest with the audience. I agree with the move away from pathologising ‘alcoholics’ as people who can never touch a drink again for fear of descent into madness

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